Big 12 Will Not Expand Which Should Surprise Nobody

first_imgThe Big 12 decided against expansion on Monday afternoon in Dallas. This surprised nobody. I wrote three weeks ago about how I think the conference is just playing chicken with ESPN and FOX, and it has become clear that that is probably the case.Filed to ESPN. No expansion. No candidate could generate supermajority.— Jake Trotter (@Jake_Trotter) October 17, 2016 Source: Status quo in the Big 12. No members added. League still discussing adding more TV revenue from ESPN and Fox.— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) October 17, 2016“We first took up the question of whether or not the conference should expand at this time, whether it should remain an active agenda item for the board of directors,” said OU president David Boren. “We decided after a very thorough discussion that we would remain at 10 members. We committed ourselves to that proposition.“I would say that as we look at the whole outcome of this meeting, it was a very, very positive meeting in terms of expressing the cohesion of this conference and the unity of this conference on this issue.”So now … nothing. The Big 12 probably makes a few more dollars and we all wait for its inevitable demise over the next decade (or sooner). No expansion candidates out there — not BYU, not Houston and definitely not anyone else — will change that.The thing to watch for OSU fans is whether OU and Texas jump ship earlier than 2025 when the TV contracts are up. Does OU head west where the Pac-12 is not making more money than the Big 12? Does it try to get to the SEC to make a very crowded 16-team league (if OSU came with it)? Does Texas make a play on the Big 10?I’m confident in a few things here.The Big 12 is dead — Maybe not next year. Maybe not the year after that. Maybe not in five years. But it will be a slow, painful death.The Big 12 will make a lot of money on its death bed — $30 million per team last year, much more in the years to come (with the Big 12 title game reinstated) Oklahoma State is tied in politically to whatever happens to OU — This is a good thing (obviously).So who knows what will happen in the short-term (or long-term) future. I’ve loved playing in the Big 12 but am looking forward to whatever change is out there over the next decade. Also, it’s a shame nobody got to deliver these definitely-real-and-a-little-too-truthful welcome notes.EXCLUSIVE: Big 12 conference note to today’s new members. pic.twitter.com/jx5mpDinje— Ted Harrison (@tedvid) October 17, 2016 While you’re here, we’d like you to consider subscribing to Pistols Firing and becoming a PFB+ member. It’s a big ask from us to you, but it also comes with a load of benefits like ad-free browsing (ads stink!), access to our premium room in The Chamber and monthly giveaways.The other thing it does is help stabilize our business into the future. As it turns out, sending folks on the road to cover games and provide 24/7 Pokes coverage like the excellent article you just read costs money. Because of our subscribers, we’ve been able to improve our work and provide the best OSU news and community anywhere online. Help us keep that up.last_img read more

The Big 12 Did Not Expand, But It Got What It Wanted (More Money)

first_imgThe end game in this Big 12 expansion charade all along has been what the end game almost always is: More money. Once the Big 12 started down the path of potential expansion, it was going to get paid either way. Either it was going to get $500 million – $1 billion by adding teams or it was going to see what the TV networks would give the Big 12 to not add them.Joel Klatt mentioned this a few weeks ago in an interview with the Oklahoman.“So far, I think they have gone back and looked at that after the television partners told them that we would not like them to expand,” said Klatt. “I think the television partners are even willing to pay a little more to keep them at 10. … I don’t think they are going to expand because I don’t think it behooves the television partners, which is the lifeline of any conference.”So now that the Big 12 has decided to not expand, the question becomes how will ESPN and FOX pay them more? Dennis Dodd of CBS Sports laid that out on Monday, and it makes a lot of sense.It would be wrapped inside the negotiation for the price of the reinstated championship game that begins in 2017. That game was once said to be worth $3 million annually to Big 12 schools. Don’t be surprised if it ends up being worth, say, $5 million.Ahh the reverse quid pro quo. You don’t do something (expand) and we’ll give you something in return (more money for your title game).Expansion doesn’t even have to enter the conversation. It’s a negotiation. In reality, it’s $50 million per year ESPN and Fox are paying instead of the $800 million to a $1 billion. That’s what they would have been on the hook for if the Big 12 expanded by four. Overpaying for the championship game actually becomes a net “savings” of $750 million to $950 million.It actually makes a ton of sense for it to play out like this.In that scenario, ESPN and Fox come out less pissed had the Big 12 exercised the Big Pro Rata.Perfect. Maybe the Big 12 brass is a bunch of geniuses after all. They didn’t stupidly add Rice and Houston and bumped the payout for each team by (potentially) $5 million? That sounds pretty good to me. Your entire conference only gets $6 million if one of its teams makes it to the CFB Playoffs.This was the sort of unwritten plan all along. Do I think the Big 12 was earnest about wanting to add a couple of teams? Sure. But do I think it always had in the back of its mind that ESPN and FOX would probably give them additional more money to not add teams and the idea of more money and no headache of diluting the conference with Cincinnati and Colorado State was appealing? Yes, I do.OU president David Boren and Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby were asked about the ESPN/FOX money on Monday.“I’m not going to get into a whole lot of specifics on our negotiations,” said Bowlsby. “We have a new piece of inventory with our championship game, so we’re in the process of discussions with both FOX and ESPN on that.”Translation: Dodd was right!“There are components of the contract that we also talk about in the context of those changes, and we’re going to continue to talk about those. But I think when those things are completed, we’ll go about the process of announcing them. Until then, I’m not prepared to talk about the specifics of any of them. In fact, they’re works in progress. Anything I would say would be highly preliminary.”“I would endorse what the commissioner just said,” added Boren.So the Big 12 might have lost out on teams on Monday but it padded itself where it matters most showing that though the future of the conference is not sparkling, there’s still hope for some sort of future. While you’re here, we’d like you to consider subscribing to Pistols Firing and becoming a PFB+ member. It’s a big ask from us to you, but it also comes with a load of benefits like ad-free browsing (ads stink!), access to our premium room in The Chamber and monthly giveaways.The other thing it does is help stabilize our business into the future. As it turns out, sending folks on the road to cover games and provide 24/7 Pokes coverage like the excellent article you just read costs money. Because of our subscribers, we’ve been able to improve our work and provide the best OSU news and community anywhere online. Help us keep that up.last_img read more

Notebook: Oklahoma State-Kansas

first_imgAustin Hays throws into double coverage! https://t.co/F72RvJXo2X— Pistols Firing (@pistolsguys) October 22, 2016• He has lost control!The #GundyMullet was running WILD in postgame today pic.twitter.com/bm8yI4nnTQ— Kyle Fredrickson (@kylefredrickson) October 22, 2016• I was looking forward to the PB and honey sandwich I was eating at halftime more than I was looking forward to the second half. Then we got The Blizzard and an onslaught of Tommy Frazier comparisons, and all was well.• We’re the best team in the country … at blocking kicks.screen-shot-2016-10-22-at-12-45-51-pm• This is not a position you want to keep putting yourself in.screen-shot-2016-10-22-at-1-16-38-pm• Here are Montrell Cozart’s career best games. He was 24/40 for 250 yards a TD and two picks on Saturday.screen-shot-2016-10-22-at-6-06-27-pm• Why is Jalen McCleskey in throwing a flip pass to James Washington?• I greatly enjoyed the long marching drive in the middle of the fourth quarter that started on OSU’s four-yard-line. It went nearly 90 yards, and even though it only ended in a field goal, it essentially ended the game.• The Blizzard! • I got Oil Baron time on Saturday. Any Saturday when I get Oil Baron time is a good Saturday. There’s a human being under there. (via @sarahcphipps) #okstate pic.twitter.com/DF230O8tEC— Carson Cunningham (@KOCOCarson) October 22, 2016• Glenn Spencer’s reaction to all those laterals was terrific.Glenn Spencer is disgusted. https://t.co/Onjf6Rr22O— Pistols Firing (@pistolsguys) October 22, 2016• It’s a rarity to get Piesman love on a non-TD, but Oklahoma State got it on Saturday.Today, @OSUAthletics had THREE different linemen show off their Piesman skills, including two running the option! https://t.co/3T80S82Znc— Piesman Trophy (@piesmantrophy) October 22, 2016 While you’re here, we’d like you to consider subscribing to Pistols Firing and becoming a PFB+ member. It’s a big ask from us to you, but it also comes with a load of benefits like ad-free browsing (ads stink!), access to our premium room in The Chamber and monthly giveaways.The other thing it does is help stabilize our business into the future. As it turns out, sending folks on the road to cover games and provide 24/7 Pokes coverage like the excellent article you just read costs money. Because of our subscribers, we’ve been able to improve our work and provide the best OSU news and community anywhere online. Help us keep that up.center_img • We somehow have an overwhelming defensive line now which matters over the course of a game. You can sort of say, “well, they’re going to take over lesser teams at some point, and that’s going to be a problem for those lesser teams,” and it usually works.• Whooooo boy.Jordan Sterns is insane. https://t.co/utPwTH7BlP— Pistols Firing (@pistolsguys) October 22, 2016• Austin Hays threw into double coverage on Saturday. I posted my 10 thoughts on the Oklahoma State-Kansas game earlier, but I wanted to empty the notebook before heading into Homecoming week. All the stuff I was thinking during OSU’s 44-20 W over KU.• I thought the unis were fine. Nothing to get crazy about. None of it really flowed that well together, but I’m always a fan of the gray pants. Might be time to retire the Gargantuan Chrome Pete helmet.• Jalen McCleskey gets my Uni Heisman for the game. The socks. The number. The towel. The fresh kicks. Awesome.screen-shot-2016-10-22-at-12-24-13-pm• I liked the way OSU started the game. Run, run, run. You’re better than Kansas. You’re more talented them (or you should be). Show them what that looks like early. Run the same three plays over and over and pop ’em with something good for a TD. OSU didn’t complete the first drive, but I still liked the mindset.• Nothing to do with our game, but this crushed me.Verne Lundquist called our March Madness game in ’09. I leaned over pregame and said “Who the hell is Happy Gilmore?!” Rafertee lost it.— Nolan (@nolancox) October 22, 2016• Good crowd, Kansas. There will be more people inside Phog Allen for the OSU basketball game than there were at this game today. Has to be more KU fans in Phog Allen than at football games on a regular basis. Not paid attendance but actual attendance.Kickoff time in Lawrence. #OKState vs Kansas. Cowboys get the ball first pic.twitter.com/6OKFdrXSgQ— Dekota Gregory (@dekotagregory) October 22, 2016• Early on it felt like Kansas had to string together, like, 25 play drives. Then later on Montrell Cozart actually did this in some form or fashion. Astonishing.• Matt did a good tweet.I don’t remember Kansas making an opposing player this uncomfortable since Adarius Bowman launched air balls in Allen Fieldhouse— Matt Amilian (@mattamilian) October 22, 2016• Justice Hill catching check-downs is my sweet and savory place.• How about this?The line on this game was #okstate by 24. #Vegas— Pistols Firing (@pistolsguys) October 22, 2016And this.Opened at 28. #gamblers— Matt Amilian (@mattamilian) October 22, 2016• This was a tremendous tweet.https://twitter.com/csnodgress/status/789873905691308032• This run was awesome. Everything Justice Hill does is awesome.• If not for the weird brick pattern, KU’s unis would have rocked. I have a soft spot for off-color, slightly yellow pants like they wore. I thought they looked tremendous.• At one point in the game I wrote this sentence: Why does it seem like KU has better athletes than us?• This is actually a great idea. I never want to play KU before noon in Lawrence ever again.Not even joking with this next comment:Kansas should play home games at 9:30 a.m.At least experiment once.— Matt Zemek (@MattZemek) October 22, 2016• OSU’s longest kickoff return on the season is 26 yards?! Did I hear that right? Long live Perrish Cox.last_img read more

Poll Results: Mixed Feelings Over Football/Hoops Excitement

first_imgOn to the comments …David S: It’s Homecoming weekend during the football season! We have an undefeated nationally ranked opponent coming to Stillwater. Ask again in mid January.Good at Crootin: “More excited” about? basketball. Doesn’t mean i won’t be screaming at my TV every Saturday for the next 2 months (I will be). But i am pumped to see what Underwood can do this to existing squad and the newcomers. Can he turn any of the 4 or 5 SFs we have on roster into the next Thomas Walkup? Defense first? Treadmill on the side of the court during practice? Hell yes, i’m all in.OSU Student: I am still more excited for football, because its the dead middle of the season and we are two lost fumbles on the road against a top 10 undefeated team away from being undefeated ourselves (by rule).That being said, I am super excited for this basketball season. We always underachieve ever since Eddie left, but that was mostly due to the work of Sean and Travis. I truly believe Brad Underwood can be the guy here. I’m drinking allllll the kool-aid!! We won’t win the conference or anything crazy like that, but we could definitely make the tournament this year and that would be a huge plus in BU’s first season. He’s also a hard, confident recruiter going after the big name kids and I absolutely love that.T-Bone: Our football team is on the verge of doing something great. I don’t think they have played great yet but there is opportunity until we lose a game. So I ma still excited about football. The fat guy has lateraled the ball but he hasn’t sung yet. The B12 Championship is still available to us. While you’re here, we’d like you to consider subscribing to Pistols Firing and becoming a PFB+ member. It’s a big ask from us to you, but it also comes with a load of benefits like ad-free browsing (ads stink!), access to our premium room in The Chamber and monthly giveaways.The other thing it does is help stabilize our business into the future. As it turns out, sending folks on the road to cover games and provide 24/7 Pokes coverage like the excellent article you just read costs money. Because of our subscribers, we’ve been able to improve our work and provide the best OSU news and community anywhere online. Help us keep that up. I have to say I’m pretty surprised a these poll results. Although I shouldn’t be considering Brad Underwood has been doing state-wide toasts to GIA all month.Almost as many of you are as excited about this upcoming basketball season as you are about a football team that is 5-2 (*6-1) and squarely in the mix of the Big 12 title race in late October. I mean, I understand it, but still … OSU is still in the mix for the Big 12 title in football!I know a lot of this hinges on not looking good against Kansas and the Big 12 title race effectively being over for OSU if it loses this Saturday, but rarely does a hoops team that goes 3-15 the year before garner this kind of love. Of course rarely does a coach bring the optimism Underwood has brought to the STW.I’m with the majority here because I still believe in this football team (maybe foolishly), but I’m also more excited about Saturdays in mid-January than I’ve been in a long, long time.Poll question today: As an #okstate fan, which season are you more excited about?— Pistols Firing (@pistolsguys) October 25, 2016last_img read more

Dana Holgerson Praises OSU Following Saturday’s Game

first_imgWhile you’re here, we’d like you to consider subscribing to Pistols Firing and becoming a PFB+ member. It’s a big ask from us to you, but it also comes with a load of benefits like ad-free browsing (ads stink!), access to our premium room in The Chamber and monthly giveaways.The other thing it does is help stabilize our business into the future. As it turns out, sending folks on the road to cover games and provide 24/7 Pokes coverage like the excellent article you just read costs money. Because of our subscribers, we’ve been able to improve our work and provide the best OSU news and community anywhere online. Help us keep that up. Dana Holgerson marched into an old stomping ground on Saturday with his new crew unbeaten, and left town licking his wounds after falling 37-20 to Mike Gundy’s Cowboys.Holgerson was gracious in defeat, yet frustrated that he felt his team matched up well if it weren’t for the three turnovers his team gave up may have been the difference in the game.“Well this one is pretty simple,” Holgerson said. “Two pretty evenly matched teams. They made three plays that flat out affected the game. It’s as simple as that. They forced three turnovers. They took all three of them down into the red zone. Basically gave them 17 points and we lose by 17 points. That’s the difference in the game. They’re as good as anybody in the country at converting on turnovers.”When you go on the road, it’s tough to give away freebies. And on the other side of the table, Gundy was complimentary of his players taking advantage of extra opportunities, and his coaches for making adjustments.“It was interesting,” Gundy said. “There were times where we had really good pressure on the quarterback, and there were times we didn’t have as much as we needed, but in the end, when you’re plus three in the turnover category, you’re really good in special teams and able to manufacture enough offense to score points, so it’s a good win for all of us.”OSU executed a great offensive game plan on Saturday, putting up the most points WVU has given up the entire season. It was one of Mason Rudolph’s best performances of the year, showing improvement in his short passing situations and showcasing supreme accuracy — an area that he has struggled with at times this season.He finished the game 26-36 with 273 yards and three touchdowns through the air, and added one on the ground. Of those 273 yards, 117 went to James Washington.“He [Washington] is really good.” West Virginia defensive coordinator Tony Gibson told NewsOK. “He is by far the best kid we’ve faced all year.”Holgorsen agreed.“James Washington is good as advertised,” said Holgorsen. “Jalen McCleskey is pretty damn good too. They’ve got a couple good players. You can probably attract pretty good players to a place like this. They did a good job.”The Cowboys entered Saturday unranked and picked to lose by about four points by Vegas, and may have earned not only a top 25 ranking, but a real chance at what could amount to a run at the Big 12 title.“Congratulations to Coach Gundy on his 100th win” Holgerson added. “He’s doing a great job with this program. You guys see this place. It’s spectacular. They’ve got good players and coaches. They were better than us today.”last_img read more

Kansas State Players To Watch This Weekend

first_imgWhile you’re here, we’d like you to consider subscribing to Pistols Firing and becoming a PFB+ member. It’s a big ask from us to you, but it also comes with a load of benefits like ad-free browsing (ads stink!), access to our premium room in The Chamber and monthly giveaways.The other thing it does is help stabilize our business into the future. As it turns out, sending folks on the road to cover games and provide 24/7 Pokes coverage like the excellent article you just read costs money. Because of our subscribers, we’ve been able to improve our work and provide the best OSU news and community anywhere online. Help us keep that up. Let’s take a look at some of the most hyped SnyderCats that will be on the field this Saturday.Quarterback Jesse Ertz, No. 16After redshirting and rehabbing his knee from an ACL tear in high school, sophomore quarterback Jesse Ertz had just won a hard fought battle in fall camp and taken over the job to lead the K-State Wildcats.  On the first play from scrimmage in a non-conference bout against the University of South Dakota, Ertz took off for a five yard run and tore the same ACL that he did as a senior in high school. Fast forward to 2016, Ertz was able to win the job in fall camp over his replacement Joe Huebner who didn’t find great success while he was out (and Kody Cook who played against OSU last year graduated). Ertz has shown tremendous athleticism in his time back on the field, averaging nearly 60 yards per game on the ground good for 12th in the conference. College football fans have heard about Trevor Knight’s ground exploits at Texas A&M, Ertz has ran the ball just two times less and for 52 less yards.Ertz and his decision making play a big part in the offense as you’d expect whether that’s with draws, sweeps and speed options on the ground or spreading the ball around 20 plus times a game. The K-State offense/team strives to play mistake-free, conservative football that hogs the clock and keeps your offense off the field. Ertz does a great job at making that happen. Wide Receiver Byron Pringle, No. 9How did the explosive 6’2”, 205 pound receiver wind up as a 22 year old sophomore at Kansas State? Growing up in a tough area in Tampa, Florida, Pringle was offered a scholarship to play at Youngstown State in Ohio but didn’t quite make it onto the field because of some legal issues. He wound up taking two years off from football (2012, 2013) before he found his way to Butler Community College in Kansas, where he got his priorities in order redshirting in 2014 and played a year of fantastic football for the Butler Grizzlies in 2015. Rated by numerous services as a top 100 junior college player nationally, Snyder and the Wildcats took a chance on him and it looks like it will pay off.  While there has been a learning curve for the juco transfer, Pringle has been picking it up as time goes on and will only improve. Both his junior college coach and Snyder rave about his explosiveness and ability to snatch passes out of the air with ease, pumping up his potential whenever possible. The Big 12’s leading kick returner, Pringle averages nearly 29 yards per return and has already ran back a kick earlier this year. While he’s still finding his way around the K-State offense, look out when he finds his way. Fullback Winston Dimel, No. 38Another impact player for the Wildcats is redshirt sophomore fullback Winston Dimel, also the son of co-offensive coordinator Dana Dimel. The local player from Manhattan, Kansas redshirted in 2014 then earned All-Big 12 at fullback as a freshman in 2015, things are looking good for the bruiser. Dimel is used in a variety of ways in the offense, with the majority being to spring quarterback Jesse Ertz or any of the running backs for longer runs, Dimel sees a lot of action down close to the goal line as a runner, pass catcher and at times as a wildcat quarterback. While questions of nepotism have come and gone, Dimel is just what you would think of for a Bill Snyder coached football player: a tough, hard-nosed no frills guy who gets the job done. Linebacker Elijah Lee, No. 9Coach Gundy speaking of the K-State defense was quoted this week saying that he’s “been watching ‘em all year and nobody’s scoring on them.” Junior linebacker Elijah Lee is one of the biggest reasons for that as Kansas State’s leading tackler (59) is on pace to have 103 tackles this year. The transition from high school defensive end to 2nd team All-Big 12 linebacker in 2015 appears to have been a smooth one as the speedy Lee covers the field from sideline to sideline. Lee averages ten tackles per game in conference play and is player that “shows up on all the (watch)lists”, someone the Cowboys will be on the watch for this week. Defensive End Jordan Willis, No. 75A stalwart at defensive end, senior Jordan Willis has started the past 34 games and has been very productive. The Wildcat defender leads the conference in sacks (8.0) and is second in tackles for loss (11.5). He had 9.5 sacks in 2015 and was recently named Big 12 Defensive Player of the Week after K-State beat Texas a few weeks ago. He’s forced six fumbles, the current leader among Big 12 players, Mason will have to be careful to avoid any of his old struggles with fumbling issues. The senior captain may be less hyped than Wildcat standouts in recent history, but he was named the “best pass rusher in the Big 12” by one publication and named preseason All B12 about anywhere you look. He’s currently fourth on the all-time K-State career sack leaders list with 22.5 since 2013. A stereotypical K-State success story, the under-the-radar Willis came from Kansas City powerhouse program Rockhurt to Manhattan, turning down only an offer from Indiana, to be one of the great pass rushers in program history. From a recent interview with ESPN, Willis talked about how he loves NASCAR and his favorite driver is Martin Truex, Jr. citing his consistency as the reason. K-State fans will really miss the consistency of Jordan Willis when his eligibility finally expires. last_img read more

Oklahoma State Is 100-1 To Win National Championship

first_imgThe first CFB Playoff rankings are out, and Oklahoma State is No. 18. I think it sort of shows that the committee doesn’t care all that much about the fact that OSU “lost” to Central Michigan (or that it doesn’t much care about who anyone lost to — see: Penn State at No. 12).Anyway, Westgate Superbook in Vegas came out with some new national championship odds on Tuesday, and I found them pretty interesting. This was before the CFB Playoff rankings were released.First Rankings: #CFBPlayoff Top 25 pic.twitter.com/W9tz3euNNL— College Football Playoff (@CFBPlayoff) November 1, 2016Only 18 teams have odds of 100-1 or better.screen-shot-2016-11-02-at-11-09-34-amAt No. 18 OSU does have a chance I suppose. A team from nearly that slot has come all the way into the top four in both 2014 and 2015, but neither of those teams had two losses like OSU does (if the committee views it as two losses!)Past two years, first rankings:No. 15 Oklahoma got in.No. 16 Ohio State got in.So: Congratulations to Colorado or Utah!— Matt Brown (@MattBrownCFB) November 1, 2016So yeah, Oklahoma State’s faint playoff hopes are probably dead after the first rankings event if Washington ejects and the Pac-12 is out of the CFB Playoff altogether. Either the Big 10 (five teams in the top 12!) or the SEC (five teams in the top 13) will get two teams in to go with one from the ACC.Even if Oklahoma State (and probably even OU) wins out, the Big 12 is pretty likely to get shut out of the playoffs for the second time in three years. But at least we’re going to make a lot of money next year! While you’re here, we’d like you to consider subscribing to Pistols Firing and becoming a PFB+ member. It’s a big ask from us to you, but it also comes with a load of benefits like ad-free browsing (ads stink!), access to our premium room in The Chamber and monthly giveaways.The other thing it does is help stabilize our business into the future. As it turns out, sending folks on the road to cover games and provide 24/7 Pokes coverage like the excellent article you just read costs money. Because of our subscribers, we’ve been able to improve our work and provide the best OSU news and community anywhere online. Help us keep that up.last_img read more

Cowboys Go For Six Straight Big 12 Wins On Saturday Which Is Significant

first_imgWhile you’re here, we’d like you to consider subscribing to Pistols Firing and becoming a PFB+ member. It’s a big ask from us to you, but it also comes with a load of benefits like ad-free browsing (ads stink!), access to our premium room in The Chamber and monthly giveaways.The other thing it does is help stabilize our business into the future. As it turns out, sending folks on the road to cover games and provide 24/7 Pokes coverage like the excellent article you just read costs money. Because of our subscribers, we’ve been able to improve our work and provide the best OSU news and community anywhere online. Help us keep that up. Oklahoma State will host its last home game of the season (I can’t believe I’m typing those words) this weekend against Texas Tech. It’s going to be a beautiful disaster of a game if last year’s 70-53 result is any indication.Let’s look at three numbers you should know about this weekend as Kliff Kingsbury and Co. come to Stillwater.Streaking to end the yearAfter losing to Baylor, OSU has reeled off five straight Big 12 wins against Texas, Iowa State, Kansas, West Virginia and Kansas State. Saturday would be No. 6. That is significant.OSU has only won six straight (or more) three other times. They won seven in a row in 2011 (pre-ISU) and 2013 (post-WVU) and eight from the end of 2014 (OU) through the first seven games in 2015 (pre Baylor and OU).That’s a pretty impressive feat for Mike Gundy.Big 12 dominanceIf OSU wins on Saturday, it would move to 44-17 in Big 12 play since 2010. Only OU currently has a better mark at 46-13. It’s pretty easy to cherry-pick these numbers to make them look favorable for you, but that doesn’t mean OSU’s seven-year run is any less outstanding.OSU has in a lot of ways been co-top dog with OU this decade in the much maligned Big 12 Conference.Mike Gundy Has Owned TechOSU has won seven straight over Texas Tech. Tech hasn’t beaten OSU in Stillwater since back in 2001. Those are gaudy numbers. So this would be eight straight against the Red Raiders and move Gundy to 10-2 overall against them since he took over in 2005.That’s great against any team, but it’s especially great against a team that, for all intents and purposes, should probably be your equal in the stat of Texas.screen-shot-2016-11-10-at-7-35-13-amlast_img read more

Our Favorite Tweets From Saturday’s Win Over Texas Tech

first_imgWhile you’re here, we’d like you to consider subscribing to Pistols Firing and becoming a PFB+ member. It’s a big ask from us to you, but it also comes with a load of benefits like ad-free browsing (ads stink!), access to our premium room in The Chamber and monthly giveaways.The other thing it does is help stabilize our business into the future. As it turns out, sending folks on the road to cover games and provide 24/7 Pokes coverage like the excellent article you just read costs money. Because of our subscribers, we’ve been able to improve our work and provide the best OSU news and community anywhere online. Help us keep that up. I used to try and throw all of these into the Saturday notebook, but that became a little muddled so I decided to keep them all in one post and highlight my faves. Let’s take a look.E-Man with Bullet is everything..@EmanOgbah is in the building. (via eman_38 Snapchat) pic.twitter.com/NPCnVbiWtg— Hayden Kyle Barber (@HK_Barber) November 12, 2016No. 107 coming into today actually.Does Oklahoma State have the worst kickoff return team in the country?— Bryan Keating (@KOCOKeating) November 12, 2016I died at this.A nice summary of Ecclesiastes https://t.co/1hNrsnPGWz— Blake Zimmerman (@bpzim) November 12, 2016This is true.These helmets are everything most of you would mock if the jersey said adidas— thinks we go 8-4 guy (@Pokelahoma) November 12, 2016I laughed out loud at this one. Tech out here playing NFL Street?— Leyton Hammonds (@Leyfro) November 12, 2016Insanity.Rudolph has completed at least 72 percent of his passes in each of the last three games.— Kendrick Marshall (@KD_Marshall) November 12, 2016So many #SurrenderCobrasWhen you thought she liked you, but then she meets an okstate Cowboy pic.twitter.com/e5xNGu3Z95— Yves Batoba (@YBatoba) November 12, 2016I was reminded of this tonight which was awesome.Inside Kliff Kingsbury’s brain right now… pic.twitter.com/rqfRASufNq— Carson Cunningham (@KOCOCarson) November 13, 2016I agree with this.You gotta be a tough SOB to be a Texas Tech fan.— Travis Hale (@LubbockElitist) November 13, 2016“Great game””Great game” #okstate #GoPokes pic.twitter.com/XdYDgsbIQJ— Cowboy Football (@CowboyFB) November 13, 2016Sounds about right.Gundy compared Chris Carson getting the final first down and then taking a knee without scoring to landing a jet on an aircraft carrier.— Mark Cooper (@mark_cooperjr) November 13, 2016That it was with Nos. 2-4 falling. We will have more on this at the beginning of next week.*whispers today was actually a good day for the Big 12*— Max Olson (@max_olson) November 13, 2016last_img read more

OSU Moves Up to No. 11 In College Football Playoff Ranking

first_imgWhile you’re here, we’d like you to consider subscribing to Pistols Firing and becoming a PFB+ member. It’s a big ask from us to you, but it also comes with a load of benefits like ad-free browsing (ads stink!), access to our premium room in The Chamber and monthly giveaways.The other thing it does is help stabilize our business into the future. As it turns out, sending folks on the road to cover games and provide 24/7 Pokes coverage like the excellent article you just read costs money. Because of our subscribers, we’ve been able to improve our work and provide the best OSU news and community anywhere online. Help us keep that up. After surviving unranked Texas Tech last Saturday, the Cowboys have climbed from No. 13 to No. 11 in the College Football Playoff rankings.Full #CFBPlayoff Top 25 for games played through November 12. pic.twitter.com/HMKAnElgs3— College Football Playoff (@CFBPlayoff) November 16, 2016Just ahead of Oklahoma State, No. 10 Colorado who also is 8-2 and has played two current top-25 teams, Southern Cal (No. 13) and Michigan (No. 3) and lost to both. OSU has played one current top-25 team, West Virginia (No.14) and won.West Virginia came in at No. 14 and Oklahoma climbed to No. 9. No other Big 12 teams were included.Kyle Porter wrote a great post about the entire process earlier today.As far as the Big 12 title-hunt goes, three teams are technically alive. Oklahoma and Oklahoma State control their own destiny. If either team wins out, they get it. If neither do, it gets a little dicey. Check out our breakdown here.last_img read more

Roundtable Wednesday: Let’s Fix The CFB Playoffs and Talk Big 12 Hunger Games

first_imgHere at Pistols Firing, we use Slack to communicate back and forth. Sometimes this is constructive. Other times we riff for 20 minutes on Mike Gundy’s golf game. We’re going to try and do an informal roundtable every Wednesday about whatever is going on this week and post it here.It’s going to be pretty slangy and GIF-y and not meant to be anything serious. We’re just here to talk about OSU the way we all do in real life. If you need to brush up on any of the contributors, you can do so here.Kyle Porter: OK @everyone who can do it, let’s roundtable! Question is what would you do to fix/change the playoff, if anything?Kyle Boone: Bring back the BCS system and move it to a playoff format.Sam Aldrich: Expand to 8 teams — 5 major conference winners, 3 wild card spots.Kyle Cox: I have to agree with @sam.aldrich and @porter on that. eight would fix a lot, not all. Maybe just set an actual guideline that makes sense and stick to it? Combine BCS-type system with a committee. Wse the committee only for the tie breakers and to veto any obvious flaws in the system. Has to be high majority to overrule computers.Caleb Deck: Who’s better at math, me or a calculator? Calculator, by a larger margin than I can count. Point being: computers are important and objective instead of biased and subjective. I have no idea why they decided to rebrand the whole championship system for more equality and clarity and removed the most “fair” and objective thing about it all. Makes absolutely no sense. There’s definitely a place for a committee and for a bit of subjective discussion and debate (see OkState vs CMU *loss*) but the computers are important for surePorter: Everybody plays the same number of conference games and has a conference championship. Five conference champs — if the Big 12 is stupid enough to have its teams have a rematch for the conference title, that’s its own problem. Three wild cards so you get the Boise States or this year apparently Ohio State. Top four get home games in first round. Semis and finals are at current bowl sites. $1 trillion idea. Make it rain.Everybody has a path to the title, and you can’t (legitimately) complain if you don’t make it.Aldrich: Texas A&M will still complainPorter: Texas A&M would complain if the national title was an agronomy contest.Justin Southwell: Sorry, @porter, we need a plan that makes a little less sense. It’s too logical. Try again.Steven Mandeville: I like the idea of requiring explanations for placement… at least make them admit the hypocrisy.Cox: How about we take all the schools that are in the top-25 on the last week of the season, give them lottery balls based on blue-blood status. Alabama and Ohio State get more than say West Virginia. Then we do an NBA Draft-style lottery for the rankings. They’ve never had an controversy with that.Porter: What if coaches just competed on Legends of the Hidden Temple and the winners moved on to the playoffs?Chris Knox: screen-shot-2016-11-16-at-3-26-18-pmSouthwell: Any coaches? Like Coach Glass could represent Oklahoma State?Porter: Andre Sexton would crush.Boone: I’d nominate Coach Arroyo…he seems like he could be a warrior in the ring.Aldrich: It’s a Hunger Games scenario, you pick your champion.Porter: Big 12 Hunger Games between football and basketball coaches, who wins?Boone: Bob Huggins would win .. Just sit on his opponents.Cox: I think Shaka would be sneaky-tough to beat.Porter: Bill Snyder wins the Big 12 Hunger Games. Zero doubt.Aldrich: Caleb: Jim Grobe would last a long time. He’s really good at dodging controversial encounters.Porter: Whoooooooo.Boone: That’s fire Caleb. Bringing it!Caleb: I see several Survivor-style alliances starting I’m just not sure who could get more on board or how loyal they would be. Gundy-Stoops-Patterson-Kliff would probably be strong. Underwood-Self-Lon? Not so sure about that….Porter: Who goes out first?Boone: Scott Drew would probably just forfeit. I’ll go with him.Aldrich: It’s not even a question- Bruce Weber immediately eats nightlock berries and dies.Porter: I think everyone would turn on Drew and offer him as a sacrifice to President Snow. Man, how good was the real Hunger Games. I think I got pneumonia because I didn’t sleep for three days because I read through the entire trilogy.Caleb: Can we cite previous coaches? If so, Mangino goes out first. Other than that I’m not sure if Snyder makes it to the start…Aldrich: Is President Snow Bob Bowlsby?Porter: How insane would Dana be in a Hunger Games dome? He’s definitely on point with a bow. Like, in real life. Not in this made-up Hunger Games series.Boone: So Kirby Hocutt is definitely the gamesmaker, right? He just thinks up a bunch of random crap to try and bring down all the participants.Porter: The odds are ever in your favor (if you’re OU and not West Virginia).Aldrich: Too bad the Big 12 Hunger Games would probably get flexed to 11 AM and televised on FS1.Porter: That was a walk off. OK, would you guys rather have Jawun Evans for two more years or Mason Rudolph for one?Aldrich: One more year of Mason — we’ve got a real shot to win the Big 12 next year if he returns, and Underwood will probably need more than this year and next to be a Big 12 title contender in hoops. Plus, we’re in great hands with this guy taking the reins at point.Boone: I’d take Mason Rudolph for one more. BrUnderwood will have Trae Young and Zach Dawson next year, but next year the football team will be ready to take a B12 title. I’m not sure they will be able to do that behind Keondre Wudtee.Southwell: Mason Rudolph for one. We need another Big 12 Championship and he gives us the best chance. Kansas will probably continue to win conference championships in basketball regardless of if we have Evans, as much as I’d like for him to stay.Porter: I’d take Rudolph, too, I think. CFB Playoff is in play next year with Rudolph (unless they change it to Supermarket Sweep rules). That’s not true of OSU in hoops, I don’t think, in the next two years.Aldrich: Rudolph coming back also probably means The President stays. We all know how the stud QB-WR combo returning for one more year turned out in 2011…Boone: With Chuba, Justice Hill and J.D. King next year, he may never even have to throw the ball.Cox: Rudolph for one year  just because he means more to the football team than even Evans does to bball. plus football is king at this point. Who knows if it will ever go back to bball.Porter: I just saw this, I’m in tears!SHOCKING INTERVIEW WITH BIG 12 ASSOCIATE REGARDING OKLAHOMA STATE NIGHT GAMES pic.twitter.com/H71zua9CO4— Zachcoin® (@YaaaBoyZach) November 13, 2016Southwell: Lastly, I just wanted to point out that OkState hasn’t lost a game since being crowned the 1945 National Champions. While you’re here, we’d like you to consider subscribing to Pistols Firing and becoming a PFB+ member. It’s a big ask from us to you, but it also comes with a load of benefits like ad-free browsing (ads stink!), access to our premium room in The Chamber and monthly giveaways.The other thing it does is help stabilize our business into the future. As it turns out, sending folks on the road to cover games and provide 24/7 Pokes coverage like the excellent article you just read costs money. Because of our subscribers, we’ve been able to improve our work and provide the best OSU news and community anywhere online. 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What Are The Best Defensive Performances of The Gundy Era?

first_imgI started wondering after the Oklahoma State-TCU game on Saturday what the best performances of the Mike Gundy era are. This is impossible to determine, of course, because it is all subjective, and not one stands out above all the others.There was the 2011 OU game. The 2013 Baylor game. The 2013 Mississippi State game. But these are all just anecdotes. All just games I have at the forefront of my mind. What about numbers, though? You guys know I love points per drive, but there is not a great way to look at individual games so we will have to measure by points scored and average yards gained.By those standards, and using the TCU game as a barometer, here are all the games in the Gundy era in which OSU has given up 10 or fewer points and allowed five or fewer yards per play. I also threw in creating two or more TOs on defense.screen-shot-2016-11-22-at-1-48-06-pmThere is some interesting stuff in here. You can throw out all the non-Power 5 games which leaves you with exactly 10 games in the Gundy era that fit the criteria. Three of those were against Kansas and Iowa State which leaves us with:Georgia (2009)Arizona (2010)Texas Tech (2011)Oklahoma (2011)Mississippi State (2013)TCU (2013)TCU (2016)That Georgia game was big time. The Arizona game was the Alamo Bowl. The Tech game resulted in the famous guns up picture. The OU game was the Big 12 title. The Mississippi State game opened the 2013 season. The TCU 2013 game was the famous Josh Stewart punt return photo game. And then this year.#TBT Josh Stewart took a punt return 95 yards to the house vs TCU last season in a 24-10 Cowboy victory! pic.twitter.com/EJY2YgrpPS— Kyle Boone (@PFBoone) October 16, 2014That’s quite a collection.You probably have to say the OU 2011 game tops the list just because of what was at stake and the fact that OSU created five turnovers that night. Also, this TCU offense certainly wasn’t the best of the bunch, but it was still a crazy good outing by Glenn Spencer’s boys. His boss agreed.“First I’m going to say that was the best defensive effort, game plan, execution, tackling against some pretty elusive skill players, that I’ve seen in a long, long time,” said Mike Gundy on Saturday. While you’re here, we’d like you to consider subscribing to Pistols Firing and becoming a PFB+ member. It’s a big ask from us to you, but it also comes with a load of benefits like ad-free browsing (ads stink!), access to our premium room in The Chamber and monthly giveaways.The other thing it does is help stabilize our business into the future. As it turns out, sending folks on the road to cover games and provide 24/7 Pokes coverage like the excellent article you just read costs money. Because of our subscribers, we’ve been able to improve our work and provide the best OSU news and community anywhere online. Help us keep that up.last_img read more

Gundy’s One Goal: ‘To Win a Conference Championship’

first_imgWhen somebody tells you you have the ninth-best winning percentage of Power 5 teams over the last 10 years. pic.twitter.com/B37bTrT1m5— Pistols Firing (@pistolsguys) November 29, 2016“I think the benchmark is to win it,” said defensive coordinator Glenn Spencer. “Maybe six, seven or eight years ago, to play was good, but the benchmark has changed. How you are evaluated has changed. The way this team is critiqued has changed. That just means we’ve gotten to this point. A lot of people have done great things to get to this point.”Yes they have. And so while a CFP Playoff berth might be the dream, a Big 12 title is all you can control. Sixty minutes to your second one of the decade. Sixty minutes until OSU-OU enters a new phase as a rivalry. You do it once with a NFL QB and first-round pick at receiver, and it’s considered a one-off. You do it again five years later on OU’s home field with their perfect Big 12 season hanging in the balance and, well, we have a full-blown conference war on our hands.Four days. While you’re here, we’d like you to consider subscribing to Pistols Firing and becoming a PFB+ member. It’s a big ask from us to you, but it also comes with a load of benefits like ad-free browsing (ads stink!), access to our premium room in The Chamber and monthly giveaways.The other thing it does is help stabilize our business into the future. As it turns out, sending folks on the road to cover games and provide 24/7 Pokes coverage like the excellent article you just read costs money. Because of our subscribers, we’ve been able to improve our work and provide the best OSU news and community anywhere online. Help us keep that up. There has been a lot of hand-wringing about the College Football Playoff this fall from Big 12 country. Yours truly has been the chief culprit. We have thought and argued and debated and been more frustrated than humans should be over amateur athletics. And the conclusion for Oklahoma State (and Oklahoma) in a lot of ways is this: None of it matter.The CFB Playoff is an entity that exists independent of the way the rest of college football operates. It is almost disassociated from the ecosystem of the sport altogether except in the way it affects postseason bowl berths. So let’s put that to the side for now and talk about just how much Bedlam means. Mike Gundy, you’re up first.“Our goal each year is to get our team prepared so that when we step on the field the fans can be proud of the product that’s on the field,” said Gundy on Monday. “We’re going to play hard, we’re going to do it respectfully. We’ve been in that situation every game this year. That’s always been our goal.”“It’s extremely difficult to predict wins and losses or to see how the game is going to go — any game. But our goal is to win a conference championship. We have always felt like if we can win the conference championship that would allow us an opportunity to get to the playoff.“The only thing we can control is what we do tomorrow and each day in practice and how we play Saturday. What I mentioned to them is that I want them to continue with what they’ve done over the last two months, because for a coach, it’s just enjoyable to watch them. They play for each other. There’s not any selfish players on the field. And I would fully expect them to play that way Saturday. We can worry about the playoff system next Monday.”Well said. And good advice for fans, players and media members alike. We have talked a lot about how Bedlam this season is the conference championship for the fourth time in six years for Oklahoma State. That’s true, but it sort of veils the fact that OSU has only won one of those.Lot of consternation via OSU fans about CFP. OSU has 1 conf. title in 40 yrs. Playoff or not, Bedlam win would be massive moment for program— Jake Trotter (@Jake_Trotter) November 28, 2016For all the winning OSU has done — and it has done a LOT of it since Mike Gundy arrived — it still only has one banner hanging from the east end of Boone Pickens Stadium on the side of Gallagher-Iba Arena. A banner that could use a cohort.last_img read more

Poll: Which Mason Rudolph/Bedlam Scenario Do You Prefer?

first_imgFriend of the blog Robert Whetsell assisted me on this, and it’s a good one because it’s a difficult choice that confounds me. I’m interested to see what Oklahoma State fans pick. As always, leave your comments in the comments section, and we will re-visit on Wednesday.May the odds be ever in your favor.Poll question today: Which scenario would you prefer for this weekend?— Pistols Firing (@pistolsguys) November 29, 2016 While you’re here, we’d like you to consider subscribing to Pistols Firing and becoming a PFB+ member. It’s a big ask from us to you, but it also comes with a load of benefits like ad-free browsing (ads stink!), access to our premium room in The Chamber and monthly giveaways.The other thing it does is help stabilize our business into the future. As it turns out, sending folks on the road to cover games and provide 24/7 Pokes coverage like the excellent article you just read costs money. Because of our subscribers, we’ve been able to improve our work and provide the best OSU news and community anywhere online. Help us keep that up.last_img read more

Former Baylor Commit Names OSU in top 5

first_imgBaylor’s 2017 recruiting class that was once held in high regard has whittled it’s way to one committed prospect. And schools from near and far have been poaching the Bears class with uncertainty at head coach and the scandal surrounding the school. Including Oklahoma State. The Cowboys have been in pursuit of defensive back Noah Daniels of League City, Texas, and earlier on Thursday he named the Pokes in his top 5 schools.Top 5 Schools (Alphabetical Order)1. Missouri ⚫️?2. Oklahoma ⭕️3. Oklahoma State ?⚫️4. TCU ??5. Utah ?— Noah Daniels (@NoahDB21) December 1, 2016 Daniels received an offer from Missouri at the end of November, then decommitted days later. He has since picked up offers from Utah and Oklahoma, and garnering interest from many schools. He is a 6-foot cornerback who plays athlete for Clear Creek, filling in at running back as a swiss-army knife lining up all over the field.OSU would be well-advised to add a cornerback to the 2017 class. Outside of the starters, the Cowboys have had a difficult time finding cornerbacks beyond the two-deep, and bringing in a younger presence could be a good way to force competition amongst the group. While you’re here, we’d like you to consider subscribing to Pistols Firing and becoming a PFB+ member. It’s a big ask from us to you, but it also comes with a load of benefits like ad-free browsing (ads stink!), access to our premium room in The Chamber and monthly giveaways.The other thing it does is help stabilize our business into the future. As it turns out, sending folks on the road to cover games and provide 24/7 Pokes coverage like the excellent article you just read costs money. Because of our subscribers, we’ve been able to improve our work and provide the best OSU news and community anywhere online. Help us keep that up.last_img read more

Daily Mullets (December 4)

first_imgWhile you’re here, we’d like you to consider subscribing to Pistols Firing and becoming a PFB+ member. It’s a big ask from us to you, but it also comes with a load of benefits like ad-free browsing (ads stink!), access to our premium room in The Chamber and monthly giveaways.The other thing it does is help stabilize our business into the future. As it turns out, sending folks on the road to cover games and provide 24/7 Pokes coverage like the excellent article you just read costs money. Because of our subscribers, we’ve been able to improve our work and provide the best OSU news and community anywhere online. Help us keep that up. The sun came up. OSU will find out its bowl today.Not going deepJohn Helsley on Mike & Mike not taking more shots.There was a reference to OU’s defensive approach, with safeties playing deep, although such looks didn’t discourage all the other teams the Sooners faced from firing away. “It’s not up to me,” said Rudolph, who admitted that the wet ball, which was wetter when the Cowboys opted for a fast tempo, was an issue. “I tried to execute the plays that were called. “Do I wish that we could have gone deep more? Yeah, I probably do. But there were plenty of plays I could have executed to put us in better positions.” [NewsOK]I thought about this last night, and I was probably a little harsh on Rudolph yesterday in my 10 Thoughts. Not that he doesn’t deserve blame (because he does), but just that the OSU staff should have called more deep shots. That is unforgivable, especially against that secondary. Especially when it was working!This one was different for OUThis one ended with Steven Parker diving across soaked Owen Field like he’d just scored a goal in the Premier League. With Baker Mayfield running a victory lap. With Jarvis Baxter turning back flips. With coaches’ wives dancing with their husbands, and Joe Mixon dancing with kids who had spilled out of the student section.The Sooners got to celebrate their 38-20 victory over Oklahoma State and their latest league title not at Arrowhead Stadium or the Alamodome or Jerry World, but right here at home. It was the “what” that made this different than the rest. [Tulsa World]Don’t they all just sort of run together at some point?More on Gundy’s conservative effortsBill Haisten goes in on Gundy as well.This had been a fully loaded, streaking and seemingly confident Oklahoma State football team, coached by a man presumably starving for success against his archrival, so I expected to see maximum effort from the Cowboys and a Bedlam shootout. Instead, during Saturday’s rain-soaked first half, Mike Gundy and the Cowboys were conservative when they could have been aggressive. [Tulsa World]It’s difficult to reach any other conclusion than the one Berry and Bill reached.In Defense (?) of GundyThis will stun you, but Robert Allen defends Gundy’s pre-halftime decision.At the end of the half, Gundy let the clock run out instead of using his final time-out after Sanders had the kickoff return to the 50. I have no problem, it was a long shot at best and without a time-out it would have been hard to get even a field goal out of it. I wouldn’t have trusted Rudolph on a throw to the end zone at that point. However, at the end of the day, you’d probably like to have it back. I just think it was a long shot.  [Go Pokes]The point is not whether you would have gotten it. It was a 1 in a 100 chance. The point is what not even trying said to your team.Gundy goes softWhooo boy, Berry Tramel agrees with what I wrote on Saturday that Gundy’s big miss was the pre-halftime shot he didn’t take.OU won the Big 12 title with a 38-20 victory Saturday that was decided in the few minutes before and after intermission, when the man with the bold hair coached with the flair of a 1954 crewcut. Gundy, quite often a comparative daredevil, tensed up against the Sooners, which long has been the claims of OSU loyalists. I don’t know if that’s fair. It was more than fair Saturday. It was bedrock truth. [NewsOK]Check.Mayfield won BedlamThis is true. OU won because they had the best player on the field on Saturday (and it wasn’t Joe Mixon).With the Big 12 title on the line, Oklahoma lost one Heisman contender to an injury. Fortunately for the Sooners, they had another. By toppling the Cowboys, the Sooners became the first Big 12 team in seven years to run the table in conference play. [ESPN]The lone bright spotJustice Hill and Chris Carson rocked.One of the reasons for optimism going into this game for Oklahoma State was the suddenly surging rushing attack. While they didn’t get the victory, it was not for lack of a successful run game. Justice Hill had a big day, gaining 99 yards on 16 carries, while forcing four missed tackles. Chris Carson was just as good, gaining 91 yards on 12 carries while scoring a touchdown and forcing a missed tackle. Overall the Cowboys averaged 6.4 yards per rush and if they had gotten a little more out of their passing game this might have been a completely different game. [PFF]It’s weird to think that it was OSU’s passing game and not its running game that was the Bedlam downfall this year. Can you imagine telling yourself that in September?Riley says Mayfield played best game everOf course it came in Bedlam with the Big 12 title on the line.In a high-stakes game on a bad-weather day, he was stupendous. He was 13 of 19 for 288 yards and three touchdowns, and two of his biggest throws, a 67-yarder to Dimitri Flowers and a 42-yarder to Jeffery Mead, didn’t even result in touchdowns.”It’s the best I’ve seen him play,” Sooner offensive coordinator Lincoln Riley said. “Easily.” [NewsOK]Still my personal hell. Also, murder me..@TheOklahoman Bedlam sports cover – Baker Mayfield propels Oklahoma to its 10th conference title in the Stoops era. #Sooners #Cowboys pic.twitter.com/oRSSeJjlwi— James Poling (@James_Poling) December 4, 2016Was Rudolph really that bad?I say yes, and others agreed.Saturday was arguably the worst start of Rudolph’s career. He completed fewer than 50 percent of his passes for the first time. His 11 completions were a career low, while his 186 yards were the second fewest, ahead of only his 179 in last year’s Sugar Bowl. It was his first loss to a Big 12 team other than Baylor. Part of his struggles could be blamed on the damp weather, but Rudolph said the Cowboys prepared all week. Plus, his OU counterpart, Baker Mayfield, seemingly had few qualms with the weather, throwing for 288 yards and three touchdowns. [O’Colly]I’m not sure how No. 2’s performance was defensible.More NewsSome great photos of the game here … A guide to Selection Sunday …This is true.If OU had played Washington’s non-conference schedule, Sooners would be 12-0 and probably ranked No. 2 in the country… https://t.co/uZBiF5elus— Jake Trotter (@Jake_Trotter) December 4, 2016More PFBFive thoughts on Maryland’s 71-70 win … Basketball notebook: Jeffrey Carroll is playing great … Here’s the Sterns on Dede hit (it’s pretty bad) … Postgame show (I called Carson to chat) … Best Bedlam tweets … 10 Thoughts on OU’s Bedlam win … Big plays doom Pokes … This on Gundy’s conservative coaching by Kyle Cox is terrific … We did almost set a Bedlam rushing record which is weird.last_img read more

Roundtable: PFB Makes Final Bedlam Predictions

first_imgBe sure to follow us on twitter and on Facebook to get the most up-to-date Oklahoma State information and breaking news.  While you’re here, we’d like you to consider subscribing to Pistols Firing and becoming a PFB+ member. It’s a big ask from us to you, but it also comes with a load of benefits like ad-free browsing (ads stink!), access to our premium room in The Chamber and monthly giveaways.The other thing it does is help stabilize our business into the future. As it turns out, sending folks on the road to cover games and provide 24/7 Pokes coverage like the excellent article you just read costs money. Because of our subscribers, we’ve been able to improve our work and provide the best OSU news and community anywhere online. Help us keep that up. Bedlam is tomorrow. The PFB team broke down our predictions and for the game and made our game picks.Boone: So Dede Westbrook seems confident. He posted on instagram a picture of him and Baker Mayfield with a caption “laughing about OSU’s chances Saturday.” Since this is a predictions post, how many yards will Dede Westbrook have in Bedlam? And will he eat his words?Cox: I will say 85. The weather has the potential to slow down either passing game but he will break off for at least one big play. As far as laughing at the chance is concerned, he will eat his words.Porter: I’ll say 110. But I don’t think he’s going to be the best receiver on the field. And I think that will surprise him.Caleb: I agree. He’s had some good games, but if you look at teams with good defenses, he’s put up 100 on WVU, only 88 on BU and only 105 yards against Kansas. KANSAS!!! I’m going price is right rules and saying 84 to beat Cox.Cox: plus I agree with KP’s dad from the pod. I don’t think Spencer is going to give much up over the top.Caleb: Also he had 33 yards against Louisiana Monroe. I know he only played like 4.2% of that game probably, but come on…Southwell: I wouldn’t hold that against Kansas after their performance against James Washington. They’re frustrating.But I’m in the same line of thinking with you guys. Weather could be a factor, but I’m worried our defense will bite on double moves. I think he will have about 100 yards. I think James Washington will have a lot more.Boone: Who will have the better game // Mason Rudolph or Baker Mayfield?Cox: WoooPorter: Mayfield because he’s going to run a lot. I still don’t trust Road Rudolph like I do Home Rudolph.Cox: I’m going with Mayfield from a numbers standpoint… But I don’t think that necessarily means OU wins.Caleb: Mayfield will look and feel like the better quarterback, but Mason’s stat line will be better. Also Mason gets the W, so obviously….Cox: Mason will win the award for better TD celebrations.Southwell: Mason should come away with a better stat line for passing. Both QBs will run, but Mayfield should take that category.I think Mason will have more TDs and fewer INTs, so I’m going with Rudolph overall.Cox: I think unless OU goes up big, Gundy’s going to want to lean on Hill/Carson heavily… He’s been waiting for a running game toy for three years. He’s on the road so he’s going to want to play with it.Porter: This is true. One of the OU writers Mandeville interviewed earlier in the week said one way to beat OU is like Tech (air, air, air) and the other is like Kansas State. Guess which one Gundy is going to choose.Cox: that makes you wonder if they will use Rudolph to run the ball more than normalPorter: Why not? No Playoff to play for. Bowl game not for a month. Ride the Reindeer.Southwell: OSU should be able to do whatever they want against OU’s defense. No reason to heavily lean on the run or passCox: I just hope weather doesn’t factor in that much.Boone: So a crazy/bold prediction for the game?Porter: Jalen McCleskey has a return TD.Cox: I predict that OU attempts a fake punt and it ends badly for themCaleb: Boring prediction: Sanders doesn’t see the field.Crazy prediction: We have at least 5 rushing touchdowns between Carson, Hill, and Rudolph.Southwell: Dede Westbrook gets stranded on Ramon Island :palm_tree:Justice Hill runs for a TD on the first play with no flags for holdingBoone: I think OSU will have two RUN touchdowns of > 50 yardsCox: I say Justice Hill has his best game of the season.Boone: Whats our final score predicitions? I’ll take 31-28 OSU.Southwell: 45-42 OSUCox: 38-35 OSUPorter: 44-37 OU.Southwell: WHY DO YOU HATE OSU @porterCaleb: 45-41 Pokes. Taylor blocks and extra point, forcing OU into some tough decisions, they score at the end to make it 42-41 (OSU in lead), fail to recover an onside kick, and the Ice Pirate seals the deal. BoomCox: last_img read more

Five Thoughts On Mike Gundy’s Coaching Flirtations

first_imgOh it’s true. Fedora was never interviewed and Gundy was still in play/waffling; never told them ‘no’ https://t.co/lCwclYoYnB— Jason King (@JasonKingBR) December 6, 2016This is supposed to be a rational voice for Baylor! Were Nick Saban and Urban Meyer just too busy with the playoff to interview?!All of these things might be true, of course (although I’m not sure Matt Rhule is a “big boy”), but I find them very, very difficult to believe. Larry Fedora played for a conference title last year. Gundy played for one the last two years.Oklahoma State and North Carolina may or may not be better jobs than Baylor (they certainly are right now), but even if they aren’t, it is close enough that making this move would be lateral at best. So Fedora and Gundy are going to laterally jump ship for the No. 147-ranked recruiting class in the country? Mmmmm okay.4. Familiarity trumps cashI don’t know if Mike Gundy was or was not offered $60 million to coach Baylor. I presume, though, that Gundy has been offered more money (either formally or informally) to coach at somewhere other than Oklahoma State at some point in the last five years.Jim Traber says that Mike Gundy turned down a 10-year, $60 million contract from Baylor. Says Oregon could be in play for Gundy.— The Sports Animal (@sportsanimal) December 6, 2016That would mean that Gundy has turned down that money, and there is a specific reason for that.Gundy is almost 50. He, maybe more than any other coach in the country, knows how difficult it is to turn the ship of a floundering program and make it awesome. It’s hard. It takes a ton of time and effort — two things Gundy doesn’t necessarily want to give.This is not 37-year-old Gundy who could bang out 15-hour days and draw up plays on his Big Chief pad until all hours of the night. He has other interests. He wants to hunt. He wants to watch his kids play ball. He doesn’t want to, for example, go on a national remorse tour explaining why there will not be any more sexual assaults in Waco from here on out.He really only has one problem to solve in Stillwater: Beat OU. Everything else has either been taken care of or is being taken care of. Every other issue he has stems from that one. You go somewhere else and you have 1,000 problems you’re not familiar with and you don’t know how to solve. I don’t really think Gundy has time or wants to make time for that. He will be in Stillwater for many more years.5. OSU might not be a stepping stone anymoreI was thinking about this as all this was going on: Are we sure OSU is a stepping stone job? I made the case pretty hard earlier this year, but I’m not totally sure that’s true anymore. You can win conference titles in Stillwater. You have the facilities. You will get paid. You have so many resources. The only downside, literally the only downside, is location.The thing that got me thinking about this is thinking about whether Baylor and Oregon are definitively better positions than Oklahoma State. Baylor is not. Oregon probably is depending on what you value. ESPN ranked the CFB jobs at the beginning of the year. Oregon was No. 13. Baylor No. 22. OSU was No. 30. But part of me wonders if second- or third-tier jobs like OSU have become like Wichita State in basketball.WSU coach Gregg Marshall famously said a few years ago that you can eat a lot of steak with the money he’s making.“I’m already making seven figures,” Marshall told CBS Sports. “You can eat a lot of steak and hamburger and pizza for what we’re making at Wichita State . … I live on the golf course. We have a beautiful backyard. My wife has four dogs. She gardens. We fly around on private planes to Napa and back to South Carolina. We have a good life, man.”Gundy has a good life, too. What is the point of going somewhere else? What are you trying to accomplish? You can win conference titles in Stillwater. You have one problem to solve. You’re six inches from playing for a national championship.Look, I’m in the bag for Gundy. I am fully intoxicated on 9- and 10-win seasons and playing in awesome bowl games every year with the occasional Big 12 title to boot. I know this is going to sound insane, but I think having a top 12 program nationally over the last decade is really good.But.I think getting stroked by your rival with a trophy on the line and waltzing off to flirt with a school that itself is flirting with short-term irrelevancy is as petulant as it gets. You have one boss to please. You have one booster to placate. You can buy part of John Deere (the company, not the tractor). You have it good.Gundy predictably dodged the questions about his fidelity to Stillwater at the end of last week. “As everybody knows, I’m fully committed to Oklahoma State,” Gundy said on Thursday.Actually I’m not sure everyone does know that, Mike.“[My players] know me really well and they know that if there is ever anything that they need, information, that I’m going to give it to them first. And they have never come to me about any of those situations or things that they hear, just from the relationship that I have with them. So, I don’t really see the need to address it and I don’t think they give it a second thought to be honest with you.”For the first time during last week’s fiasco I came to the realization that Oklahoma State football will still be pretty good when Gundy leaves as long as it gets the right coach. This is a Bryan Curtis special. He wrote recently about Charlie Strong and Texas.Here’s my theory of college football: There aren’t great programs. There are only great coaches. I know this because I spent most of my childhood watching crappy Texas football teams. They got better when Brown was hired during my junior year at UT.When Brown’s spell wore off, Texas sunk back to a spot in the pecking order behind Texas A&M and Houston, plus Baylor and TCU. This was treated as a historical quirk; in fact, it was a restoration of the Reagan-era prime of the Southwest Conference. Magical thinking about indomitable programs is rampant across college football. [Ringer]Mike Gundy is one of the best things to ever happen to Oklahoma State football, but he’s going to get himself in trouble if he starts thinking he’s the only thing to ever happen to Oklahoma State football. Those contracts don’t renew themselves.His annual tour de Power 5 is not only getting stale, it’s getting tiring. So while last week’s move will be viewed by some as Gundy’s latest power play in a career full of them, I take the opposite view. Gundy has been a stronghold for Cowboy football for over a decade now, but I don’t think it gets any weaker than this. I’m sorry this is so tardy, but I was out this week as we had our third kid. I had a loooooot of time in the hospital and in the middle of the night to think about Mike Gundy, Baylor and the future of Oklahoma State football. Here is what I came up with.1. Gundy’s self-awareness not highHere is what I believe about what happened last week: If Mike Gundy did not want the news of him holding hands with Baylor to be made public, it would not have been made public. Did you notice the three loudest OSU-specific voices on Gundy’s supposed visit to Waco? Pat Jones, Robert Allen and Jim Traber.Pat Jones said Gundy showed him how much Baylor allegedly offered (10 years, $60 million). Gundy is not stupid. He knows Jones talks on the radio. He also had the chance to tell him it was off the record. Same for Allen. Those were the first two people who sent the test balloon. This is not difficult to parse through. This was on purpose. I’m not breaking any news by saying that. If it was Bill Haisten or Mark Cooper or Kyle Fredrickson who first reported it, I would empathize with Gundy’s inability to maintain some privacy. But not like this.So it’s clear Gundy wanted all of it out there. My question is, uh, why? You’re just coming off a brain-thumping by your in-state rival for the conference championship in a game on a day in which most of your decisions were questioned by all but the most irrational Gundy supporter.This would be like me filing an incoherent 800-word piece about the 2017 Masters for CBSSports.com and then the next week making it (very) public that I was interested in jumping to ESPN.com for more money. I can do that, of course, but what am I trying to accomplish? It makes me look foolish and like I have no grip on reality. Should I not listen to ESPN.com because I flailed in my Masters piece? No, that’s not what I’m saying. But I definitely should have:The self-awareness to keep this very privateThe kind of relationship with my editor and boss where I can go to them and say, “hey, I botched that Masters piece but you know I’ve done really good work around here … ESPN.com is offering me a big raise so can we talk about the future of my contract?”That seems like a reasonable position to take.Here’s the thing. I think if Gundy was actually serious about leaving OSU then this story would not have been leaked (by him). But because it was leaked, I have to believe he wasn’t serious and was just trying to either goad his bosses (silly) or use it as leverage (he just got a contract extension last year, and there are better ways to go about doing so again).This is not endearing, and with a 2-10 record against OU, “endearing” is one of the only things Gundy has going for him this time of year.2. But he does have slack in the lineI wrote about this on Monday, but Gundy knows OSU isn’t going to pay him (at least) $7 million to go away so he can kind of do whatever he wants. It’s crappy that he takes advantage of this (and completely silly — when is the last time Bob Stoops legitimately flirted with another school?) but he understands the economics of it.As an aside: He does not however understand the economics of what it takes for a lesser entity (OSU) to defeat a greater entity (OU) in an annual football game (i.e. take a risk). Someone leave directions to the Spears School of Business on his desk. I’m sure one of the professors over there would be happy to give a pro bono lecture.Anyway, part of me thinks Gundy just does this every December to irk Mike Holder and Boone Pickens. Like, he just has a bunch of stuff floated out there until he gets a groveling text from somebody in a office at the top of Gallagher-Iba Arena telling him to stop and that yes, of course he can have a mullet-specific hairdresser brought in part-time to the barber shop inside of Boone Pickens Stadium.3. Baylor has an overinflated view of itselfJason King is a Bleacher Report writer who roots for and reports on Baylor. I have no issue with the former. I am a CBS Sports writer who roots for Oklahoma State. That is not a problem. My point in this is, however, that as a journalist you usually represent the more conservative, rational end of your fan base. And yet …Baylor search reminds me of presidential election. Twitter know-it-alls laughing at the mention of big-time names are about to look stupid— Jason King (@JasonKingBR) December 6, 2016 While you’re here, we’d like you to consider subscribing to Pistols Firing and becoming a PFB+ member. It’s a big ask from us to you, but it also comes with a load of benefits like ad-free browsing (ads stink!), access to our premium room in The Chamber and monthly giveaways.The other thing it does is help stabilize our business into the future. As it turns out, sending folks on the road to cover games and provide 24/7 Pokes coverage like the excellent article you just read costs money. Because of our subscribers, we’ve been able to improve our work and provide the best OSU news and community anywhere online. Help us keep that up.center_img Larry Fedora wanted Baylor job and would’ve taken it. Was never interviewed.— Jason King (@JasonKingBR) December 6, 2016last_img read more

Sterns, Jarwin, Salako to Play in East-West Shrine Game

first_imgJordan Sterns of Oklahoma State U. has accepted the invitation to play in the ’17 #ShrineGame https://t.co/GZrW52z3Q0 @j_era13 @OSUAthletics— Shrine Game (@Shrine_Game) December 6, 2016Jarwin’s been the poster-child for the “cowboy back” position that is now in its second year. His 289 receiving yards leads all tight ends in the Big 12 and he’s averaging 17 yards per catch.Blake Jarwin of @OSUAthletics has accepted the invitation to play in the 2017 East-West #ShrineGame. https://t.co/TIEJUtlvmL— Shrine Game (@Shrine_Game) November 29, 2016Salako transferred to Oklahoma State from UAB after they announced they were shutting down football. He stepped right into a starting job at tackle and has been a big part of the offensive line’s improvement over his two years in Stillwater.Victor Salako of @OSUAthletics has accepted the invitation to play in the 2017 #ShrineGame. https://t.co/wXi2dMPFVx @VictorSalako77— Shrine Game (@Shrine_Game) November 29, 2016 Three Oklahoma State seniors will play in the 2017 East-West Shrine Game.The Shrine Game is a good chance for these prospects to showcase their talents in front of NFL scouts and get some TV exposure.Safety Jordan Sterns, offensive tackle Victor Salako and cowboy back Blake Jarwin have accepted invitations to participate in the pre-draft exhibition that takes place on January 21, 2017 at Tropicana Field in St. Petersburg, Florida.Sterns is a big leader for the Cowboys’ defense and has led the team in tackles the last three years. He will be missed at OSU. While you’re here, we’d like you to consider subscribing to Pistols Firing and becoming a PFB+ member. It’s a big ask from us to you, but it also comes with a load of benefits like ad-free browsing (ads stink!), access to our premium room in The Chamber and monthly giveaways.The other thing it does is help stabilize our business into the future. As it turns out, sending folks on the road to cover games and provide 24/7 Pokes coverage like the excellent article you just read costs money. Because of our subscribers, we’ve been able to improve our work and provide the best OSU news and community anywhere online. Help us keep that up.last_img read more

Midwest City Safety Evan Fields Eliminates OSU From Consideration

first_imgMidwest City safety prospect Evan Fields, a once top target for Oklahoma State, has eliminated the Cowboys from consideration in a list he released on twitter earlier this week. Saying he is cutting his recruitment “exclusively” to these schools.https://twitter.com/evan4_/status/808876655968157696Fields is a 2017 recruit, now with close to 30 Division I offers that include Notre Dame, Oregon, Arizona State, Memphis and others. Quite an impressive offer sheet.So what gives?Fields announced recently that he was wiping the slate clean with his recruitment due to some behind the scenes activity between coaches, although it’s unclear if that was in reference to the OSU staff. After hitting the reset button, OSU fell off his list – and OSU seemed to be moving in on another target, Corrion Ballard, in his place.Ballard is a junior college prospect from Blinn College. He announced on Wednesday night that he had committed to Utah over OSU and Texas Tech.So … Will OSU be getting back in the Evan Fields sweepstakes?At this point it seems unlikely.Based on their target that emerged in junior college safety Corrion Ballard, it would appear that OSU may be looking for a prospect who could come in and contribute immediately to help replace Jordan Sterns.OSU has several committed prospects at the position with Kris McCune, Tre Sterling, Malcolm Rodriguez, and Lamarcus Morton – all of which are currently high school seniors.I’d expect that should they take another safety in the class, they’ll be looking for someone who can fill in immediately – either a junior college prospect or a highly-rated recruit who projects to play early. While you’re here, we’d like you to consider subscribing to Pistols Firing and becoming a PFB+ member. It’s a big ask from us to you, but it also comes with a load of benefits like ad-free browsing (ads stink!), access to our premium room in The Chamber and monthly giveaways.The other thing it does is help stabilize our business into the future. As it turns out, sending folks on the road to cover games and provide 24/7 Pokes coverage like the excellent article you just read costs money. Because of our subscribers, we’ve been able to improve our work and provide the best OSU news and community anywhere online. Help us keep that up.last_img read more